Saturday, September 12, 2009

Talks of Shinsengumi and Aizu on yahoo 1


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shimazuryu: Hey...quick question.
shimazuryu: Do any of the guys like onions?
nefret_nubti: oh
nefret_nubti: uhm hold on, they were just here this morning
nefret_nubti: they laugh and shinpatchi says as long as he doesnt have to eat it raw and harada lists things that are good to make with onions
nefret_nubti: and hajime-kun kinda doesnt care eather way
shimazuryu: I had a feeling Harada was the one.
nefret_nubti: lol whats so important about onions?
shimazuryu: Just wondering, since I'm cooking with them tonight.
nefret_nubti: heeheehee cool
nefret_nubti: I was thinking about the thing Im writing for them
nefret_nubti: and it is a fantacy setting so shinpatchi was saying he would like to be a fire master
nefret_nubti: so I told him NO that he was way to irrisponsible in life for such a thing, absolutely not, you would be a danger unto your self !
shimazuryu: Heh, now you've got me smiling, I'm remembering all the fights he picked/got into, especially with Kondo.
nefret_nubti: yeah .... no, I couldnt do it even in fiction
nefret_nubti: he laughed
shimazuryu: You know about the time he went before Lord Matsudaira and complained about Kondo?
nefret_nubti: I knew aboutt he petition
shimazuryu: And Lord Matsudaira said "well if Kondo's in the wrong he's got to commit seppuku, but as his superior I have to commit seppuku too. Is that okay with you?"
nefret_nubti: but not about that, tell me
shimazuryu: (that's it)
nefret_nubti: oh man haahaahaa so I guess it wasnt ok then
shimazuryu: Well, actually no....I think the end result was that everyone shared drinks at the Aizu offices in eastern Kyoto, and then Nagakura was confined to quarters for awhile.
nefret_nubti: haahaaha
shimazuryu: But hey, it's thanks to Nagakura that I know how much of an asshole Kondo could be.
nefret_nubti: he would spend most of his time playing pranks and just setting people on fire when they irritated him
nefret_nubti: what did shinpatchi say
shimazuryu: What, about Kondo being an asshole? It's just in his overall autobiography.
shimazuryu: You can see Kondo get more and more power-hungry and egocentric until the day he says that the guys need to become his vassals.
shimazuryu: At which point Nagakura and Harada basically say "the hell with that" and leave.
nefret_nubti: what did hajime-kun do?
shimazuryu: He was already gone, leading a group of the wounded to safety in Aizu.
nefret_nubti: so he left for aizu before everyone else?
shimazuryu: I think so.
shimazuryu: he led one group, Kumebe Masachika led another.
nefret_nubti: did he and the others leave because they felt like it or was this official?
shimazuryu: It was official, the wounded needed better treatment and better safety.
shimazuryu: The shogunate's top doctor was in Aizu at this point too, so it was probably for the best.
shimazuryu: The other day, for instance, I learned that my professor's professor is the legendary John Whitney Hall.
shimazuryu: Dr. Hall was one of the biggest figures in Japanese studies, back in the 50s.
shimazuryu: That afternoon, when I found one of Dr. Hall's books in the library, it....reverberated.
shimazuryu: I dunno how else to describe it.
shimazuryu: I had to put it down.
shimazuryu: And there was that time I found a book that listed every single name of the Aizu castualties in 1868.
shimazuryu: 240+ pages of names.
shimazuryu: I can't keep reading stuff like that because sometimes the names practically scream at me.
nefret_nubti: yeah I know the feeling
nefret_nubti: they find it very funny that someone called them boring
shimazuryu: Heh, boring.
shimazuryu: For goodness sakes.
nefret_nubti: I know !
nefret_nubti: its never boring when they hang about
nefret_nubti: more like uttermadnesschaos that is only barely contained
nefret_nubti: yamanami and kondou are much more quite
shimazuryu: Well, Yamanami was a scholar and Kondo trained himself to that point.
nefret_nubti: yes, and I still have no desire to care about the romance of what ever kingsomes
shimazuryu: Heh, sorry to say this but Kondo proves the old Chinese saying.
shimazuryu: that you shouldn't read that book more than 3 times.
nefret_nubti: I refuse to read it at all
nefret_nubti: ah dont worry there were times when I cant stand him, but he usually is ok
shimazuryu: Well, he read the Water Margin and a bunch of other stuff too.
shimazuryu: The Water Margin actually isn't that bad, from what little of it I know.
shimazuryu: Water Margin in Japanese is Suikoden
nefret_nubti: I dont know what that is at all
shimazuryu: Another long-ass Chinese story.
nefret_nubti: ha ok
nefret_nubti: I wanted you to see this one
nefret_nubti: I changed a bit ... like the phichi into sohei, but I think they still speak binary
shimazuryu: Hm....a little confusing because I've got no background in your story, but it was good.
nefret_nubti: oh stuff happened before this, its just a pies
nefret_nubti: I mean a piece of it, you are welcom to read whats there if you'd like
nefret_nubti: this is just my favorite part, Im still trying to decide if I shoudl keep hajime-kun's thinking process in or take it out, what do you think
nefret_nubti: and hajime-kun is the one who came up with the jirou charactor
shimazuryu: The thinking process is good where it is.
nefret_nubti: oh Im glad you like it that way ! I have been battling with it for a long time, since hajime-kun is not very talkative
shimazuryu: hey, by the way
shimazuryu: I learned something about him the other day.
shimazuryu: He got married to Yaso the day he left Aomori/Tonami for Tokyo.
nefret_nubti: o?
shimazuryu: He was serving as a guard in Lord Matsudaira's retinue.
nefret_nubti: but, didnt they live together in someones house?
shimazuryu: (Lord Matsudaira and his family were summoned to live in Tokyo)
shimazuryu: No, apparently not.
nefret_nubti: ohhhhhhhhhhhh
nefret_nubti: so yeah hu....
shimazuryu: They both relied on the same man, as far as I can tell-- Kurasawa Uhei.
shimazuryu: Satow (that English diplomat) met with Kurasawa once in the mid-1860s.
shimazuryu: Satow's the guy we figured you were married to.
nefret_nubti: ooooo.
shimazuryu: Satow (in his book) said he had a "long standing friendship" with the Aizu clan that survived the 1868 war.
nefret_nubti: what did they meet about?
nefret_nubti: (so fascinating)
shimazuryu: Well, there were a group of Aizu samurai who were meeting with him.
shimazuryu: Can't remember why....but the group was led by Naga-sama's brother in law.
shimazuryu: Kajiwara Heima
shimazuryu: I can't help but think that the marriage was a formality that brought Saito into the ranks of Aizu retainers.
shimazuryu: It made him an Aizu samurai.
nefret_nubti: who was she?
shimazuryu: there was no reason for him to stay.
shimazuryu: But he did.
nefret_nubti: I was under the impression that she lived with people who took her in and she didnt have family
nefret_nubti: (this is so exciting!)
shimazuryu: Yaso was from an Aizu samurai house of some consequence (Shinoda)
shimazuryu: Shinoda was the family of one of the Byakkotai boys.
shimazuryu: after Saito went to Tokyo, yeah, she did live with those people (the Kurasawa)
shimazuryu: She died of......smallpox maybe? Dunno.
shimazuryu: also, I get the feeling that among all these Aizu pictures I have, Saito is in them somewhere.
nefret_nubti: yeah, you work so hard all the time and I go and loose stuff, I truely feel horrid
shimazuryu: These are pictures of groups of people.
nefret_nubti: oh NICE !!!!
shimazuryu: I dunno if he's in them though.....usually I can only spot the lord and his son or family.
nefret_nubti: hmmmm
shimazuryu: but they'll usually be with a huge number of ex-retainers.
nefret_nubti: I dont know if Id be able to tell
nefret_nubti: but who knows ......
shimazuryu: I don't have any scanned unfortunately.
nefret_nubti: you tease... telling me all abotu these pics and THEN you tell me they are not scanned
shimazuryu: The picture I'm thinking of has Lord Matsudaira and a small group of retainers in it-- and Harada Kai (an Aizu clan elder) is up front, that's the one that made me first think of this.
shimazuryu: Crap, not Harada Kai, that's Sendai-han
shimazuryu: I mean Harada Tsushima
shimazuryu: That's the picture
nefret_nubti: you think he might be in here
shimazuryu: Yeah
nefret_nubti: well one of them looks like a freind of mine who I have a past life connection with
nefret_nubti: though I dont know what that connection is or who he was yet
nefret_nubti: the one rt beside the TALLISH person, on the lft
shimazuryu: oh!
shimazuryu: Well the tall guy is Lord Matsudaira
nefret_nubti: but knowing hajime-kun he is probably the one behind that guy's head
shimazuryu: Where?
nefret_nubti: on the far rt, making no atempt to get out from behind the guy's head
shimazuryu: OH
shimazuryu: lol
nefret_nubti: who is the one sitting properly by Lord Matsudaira ?
nefret_nubti: no, the hair isnt right, he says he would never go about with such an unkept personage
shimazuryu: On the left of him?
shimazuryu: I'm not sure.
shimazuryu: The only person I know for sure is Harada Tsushima, he's up front.
nefret_nubti: which one?
shimazuryu: Front row, seond from right
shimazuryu: His face is washed out here, sorry-- in the original it's only marginally better
nefret_nubti: haahaa I like the way you put that
nefret_nubti: damn who would have though hajime-kun would have been that pickey about his appearance "I never looked so unkept/untidey" except (something he shows me flashes of ... I dunno forrestry and rock and running)
nefret_nubti: and dirt and blood smears and ok we can stop now I get it !
shimazuryu: Well-- that's probably during hte war.
shimazuryu: He didn't really have time to wash.
nefret_nubti: lol Im sure he didnt
nefret_nubti: *it would pollout the water*
nefret_nubti: (yes, he has a bit of a sense of humor)
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Negitive Confession - Faukner

1. Hail, Usekh-nemmt, who comes forth from Anu, I have not committed sin
2. Hail Hept-khet, who comes froth from Kher-aha, I ahve not committed robbery with violence.
3. Hail, Fenti, who comes froth from Khemenu, I have not stolen
4. Hail, Am-khaibit, who comes forth from Qernet,I have not slain men and women.
5. Hail, Neha-her, who comes froth from Rasta, I ahve not stolen grain
6, Hail, Ruruti, who comes forth from heaven, I have not purloined offerings.
7. Hail, Arfi-em-khet, who comes forth from Suat, I have not stolen the property of god
8. Hail, Neba, who comes and goes, I have not uttered lies
9. Hail, Set-qesu, who comes Hensu, I have not carried away food
10.Hail, Utu-nerert, who comes forth from Het-kaPtah, I ahve not uttered curses.
11. Hail, Qerrti, who comes forth from Amentet, I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men
12. Hail, Her-f-ha-f, who comes forth from thy cavern , I have made none to weep
13. Hail Bast, who comes forth from Bast, I have not eaten the heart.
14. Hail, Ta-retiu, who comes forth from the night, I have not attacked any man.
15. Hail, Unem-snef, who comes forth from the execution chanber, I am not a man of deceit
16. Hail, Unem-besek, who comes forth from Mabit, I have not stolen cultivated land.
17. Hail, Neb-Ma'at, who comes forth from Ma'ati, I have not been an eavesdropper
18. Hail, Tenemiu, who comes forth from Bast, I have not slandered [no] man
19. Hail, Sertiu, who comes forth from Anu, I have not been angry with out just cause.
20. Hail, Tutu, who comes forth from Ati, I have not debauched the wife of any man
21. Hail, Uamenti, who comes forth from the Khebt chamber, I have not debauched teh wife of any man
22. Hail, Maa-antuf,, who comes forth from Per-menu, I have not polluted myself.
23. Hail, Her-uru, who comes forth from Nehatu, I ahve terrorized no one.
24. Hail, Khemiu, who comes forth from Kaui, I have not transgressed [the law]
25. Hail, Shet-kheru, who comes forth from Urit, I have not been wroth
26. Hail, Nekhenu, who comes forth from Heqat,I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.
27. Hail, Kenemti, who comes forth from Kenmet, I have not blasphemed
28. Hail, An-hetep-f, who comes forth from Sau, I am not a man of violence.
29. Hail, Sera-kheru, who comes forth from Unaset, I have not been a stirrer up of strife
30. Hail, Neb-heru, who comes forth from Netchfet, I have not acted with undue haste.
31. Hail, Sekhriu, who comes forth from Uten, I have not pried into matters.
32. Hail, Neb-abui, who comes froth from Sauti, I ahve not multiplied my words in speaking
33. Hail, Nefer-Tem, who comes forth from Het-ka-ptah, I have wronged none, I have done no evil
34. Hail, Tem-Seu, who comes forth from Tetu, I ahve not worked curses against the king
35. Hail, Ari-em-ab-ef, who comes forth from Tebu, I have never stopped [the flow] of water
36. Hail, Ahi, who comes forth from Nu, I have never raised my voice
37. Hail Uatch-rekhit, who comes forth from Sau, I have not cursed god
38, Hail, Neheb-ka, who comes forth from thy cavern, I have not stolen the bread of the gods
40. Hail, Tcheser-tep, who comes forth from the shrine, I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from teh spirits of the dead
41. Hail, An-af, who comes forth from Ma'ati, I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god of my city.
42. Hail, Hetch-abhu, who comes forth from Ta-she, I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god

Right Speach: Kemetic

I have taken from three main sources: Neturism (ancient egyptian) Hinduism and Buddhism.

Djehuti (thoth) gave us language/words. For this reason Mdu Ntr (oh loosly translated its holy writing) is *sacred* words are vibrational in nature and carry power. If you don't believe me, how many times has someone said something that 'rubbed' you the wrong way? How many times has someone said "I love You" and you 'melt' ?

More strictly translated we see that Ntr is there. This word has several meanings and its usually easier to say God than divine principle, universal truth, active function, spirit..... Words of God.

Words, Language are sacred.
One prevalent theme that crosses the boundaries of Neturism, Hinduism and Buddhism is Right Speech.

The original Neturians, the Kemites (kem = the black land, its how the ancient Egyptians referred to themselves and their country, they also used Tamery =the blessed land) had very strong opinions and beliefs regarding ethics and proper speech.

Lets take a look at the "negative confession"/ 42 Tenants of Ma'at as translated by Dr. Muata Ashby
you will notice the variants, that is because this text was not only found in the Book of Going forth by Day, but scrolls were found with the deceased. They varied. Originally the number of tenants were a smaller number, but most practitioners of Neturism keep up with the accepted 42 in order to be more concurrent with the Noms (province) There were 42 Noms each with its own guardian. I left out the gardian names, since they are not esp relevant rt now.
Each Declaration begins with a greeting to a Nom spirit and I have not...

(Hail, Usekh-nemmt, who comes forth from Anu, I have not committed sin) -Faukner

11. uttered evil words / variant: allowed myself to become sullen, to sulk or become depressed

Ever notice that someone can say just a tiny statement with huge negative connotations, or something thoughtless if not down right cruel an it ruined your whole day or gives you weirdo psychological issues? This particular tenant first focuses on 'evil' words. Isfet - that which is against Ma'at (order of the universe, justice, truth) Isfet is evil, plain and simple, but what is evil the extremely confused person may ask... anything that is malicious and damaging to one self and others.

When we utter 'evil' words, blasphemy, insults, threats, hurtful concepts we are not only creating this nasty vibration, not only are we poisoning the very air which sustains our lives, but we curse that person and ourselves.

I like the variant as well. Who wants to be around a sullen, sulky depressed person. When you feel a mood intensely it influences others. Your energetic field infects the breathing air. I'm sure we have all experienced being around someone who, just by walking in the room charges the air with depression and or hopelessness.

When we are sulky, sullen and depressed we infect our own heart. We create our own mental dis -ease. This of course removes our logic center and causes us to act in pretty horrid, annoying if not horrific ways.

17. spoken against anyone / variant: babbled, gossiped

When you speak against someone , again you are cursing them and yourself. You are tainting them and yourself. Its like throwing psychic bricks in their faces. Flinging negative vibrations all over the place. Babbling and gossiping are useless things with no redeeming characteristics and usually stems from malice and jealously or anger. (IGNORANCE)

25. stirred up strife (disturbance) cause terror. not struck fear into any man

I think this is a no brainer. He said She said ... then something else was said, and maybe we didn't think before we allowed something hurtful to fall out of our mouths. When you speak without thinking, you may say something offensive or hurtful. One can always temper the truth with compassion.

I brought that up because how many of us have heard, I'm not trying to be mean, and no offense or lol.... and then something nasty rolls out of their mouths and splatters all over your energy/FACE

Causing strife, disturbance, terror ect ect is an incredibly negative act stemming from several psychological issues. Control, self concept issues, arrogance, mischievousness, in short dis eased thinking. Its a form of dominance, attempting to removes someones will if not damaging their spirit or psyche.


29. Worked grief, abused anyone / cultivated a quarrelsome nature

Ah psychological abuse ..... I'm pretty sure I don't need to get into that one...
Quarreling is more of an energetic vampiric activity than anything else. It allows that person to raise a neg energy level so that that poor guy can be drained of healthy things. This is relatively similar to poisoning some one.

37. spoken scornfully / variant: yelled unnecessarily or raised my voice

"Do not raise your voice, for god abhors loud speaking."
I misquoted that, and I don't even remember which wisdom text it comes from.
Speaking scornfully or yelling is a good way to psychologically and psychically beat the snot out of someone.

39. behaved with arrogance / variance: been boastful
Of course this doesn't necessary belong in this category until you think about what it means to behave with arrogance. There is usually boasting involved. As if you are attempting to capture and captivate people so you can drain them with the oh I'm better than you thing. Not only that but it usually leads to some of the ones from above, speaking scornfully, causing strife, all manner of things can bounce of this one. Boasting decreases your merit.


40. been overwhelmingly proud or sought for distinctions for myself

here we go back to arrogance. Usually pride and seeking distinction follows on the heels of 39. If you are seeking distinction then all you have done amounts to nothing. You were not acting with love or compassion, you were self seeking, separating yourself from the whole of humanity insted of assisting it.

Now, because speech was so very important, sacred and holy, you know the sages had to have their say as well.

PtahHotep
1. Be not proud because thou art learned; but discourse with the ignorant man, as with the sage. For no limit can be set to skill, neither is there any craftsman that possesseth full advantages. Fair speech is more rare than the emerald that is found by slave-maidens on the pebbles.

*THOSE* people. The ones who think they know *EVERYTHING* and are so busy on their soap train (as apposed to a soap box) that they can't hear anyone else. Here, when PtahHotep says ignorant man I don't think he is just talking about 'people who dont know any better' Im more inclind to think he is discussing the 'uneducated'. For example. I graduated High shool, took some psych classes. In all other arias Im self taught. I have no 'formal' schooling. That aside, *EVERYONE* is our teacher. You meet every single person for a reason, whether or not the reason is clear. We all learn from each other, whether we learn that we need more compassion and patience in order to deal with the idiot we are talking to, or understanding why we become angry at another (who just happens to be reflecting our own issues back at us)

Simply, talk politely to everyone. Treat every person with the same amount of respect. Whether it is a child, an annoying teenager, the unlearned, the scholar, the priest, the holy person.

I remember asking The Historian (Japanese history and politics of some era I cant recall, though his pet project is the Aizu Clann) what honorific should a priest use? Just in case I get to go to Japan tomorrow, I would like to make sure I can act somewhat appropriately for my 'office' so to speak. I'm always paranoid that I'm going to use the wrong honorific and make a gross social error. He told me to just use san to everyone. This makes a certain amount of sense, holy people don't need to be egoistic and or proud. May as well make sure to learn the polite form of speech as well.....

Certain words, and behaviors with speech keep the ego in check, you know how it likes to take over and make and idiot out of you.


2. If thou find an arguer talking, one that is well disposed and wiser than thou, let thine arms fall, bend thy back, 1 be not angry with him if he agree (?) not with thee. Refrain from speaking evilly; oppose him not at any time when he speaketh. If he address thee as one ignorant of the matter, thine humbleness shall bear away his contentions.

I have actually seen this, and used this device. Its surprising how speaking softly and humbly remove contention from angry/arrogant people. Of course there are some (ex husbands) who just wont be pacified not matter what because they *like* raising their voice and hurting others with their words...

This also reminds me of a concept I learned from my friend and teacher Tazima Hatchepsut. AND my black feet friend (no no its not black FOOT, they have TWO feet !!! ) this can be a harsh lesson for a westerner to learn because we are not raised with the concept of RESPECTING elders. Of course I thought I was, but it turns out that RESPECTING elders in Native American Tradition and Kemetic tradition is a serious, serious matter.

If an elder talks to you, you are truly *HONORED* and should act with appropriate humbleness. You do not talk back. You do not argue. Always say please and thank you. ect ect (manners) I don't care how wrong you think they are or how much what they said pisses you off. There is no arguing or discussion on the matter until you go and learn a few things and become an *elder* yourself.

3. If thou find an arguer talking, thy fellow, one that is within thy reach, keep not silence when he saith aught that is evil; so shalt thou be wiser than he. Great will be the applause on the part of the listeners, and thy name shall be good in the knowledge of princes.

"There is no such thing as evil... or free will everything is predetermined" Those are two phrases that crawl under my skin. or "what is evil" *sigh* I am not sure why people want to deny good and evil. Positive and negative. I'm sure you can say it like that. evil is that which is disruptive and harmful to the self and others. *there is no black and white* oh yeah there is.... the guy who takes and tortures a child, in the literal sense, an abusive person, child molesters. I think those things are pretty cut and dry. One who works in ways to be harmful to others in any way. Dominating by fear or physical violence.

The most insidious nature of evil is to convince you that it doesn't exist.
and then
"oh but they have a mental illness."
Look, I don't care, if someone goes around stabbing people in the face they need to be sequestered or killed. I can not tolerate the idea that humans as a race are so afraid of their own mortality, and their own negative issues that they don't see that harmful people need to go to an elsewhere so that we can protect our children, friends and loved ones. To allow an evil to exist is just as bad as the evil itself. Make all the excuses you want, you can even bring compassion and love into the picture but I will never be convinced that having love and compassion means I should allow others to be harmed at the hands of a person who does seseless violence of any kind, verbal or not. That in itself is not only irresponsible, but the insidious creeping nature of evil.

Christians say that Satan wins and succeeds because he convinces people he isn't real and then he can go run amok. Though I do not believe in satan, I believe completely in the above statement if we take Satan as a personification of evil, much like APEP. (apophis)

If you want to defend the child molester and rapist and abuser, that's fine, you live with them in a gated community, with guards and dogs and fences that electrocte people.... like prison... Actually that isnt a bad idea. put them in one place with some nice counselors and what ever kind of holy people to help fix their issues and heal their soul, but for love of crap keep a tranquilizer gun around.

Lovely rant. ...
I like to think that what I just did was obvious, but as I learned from Tazima, not everyone is on the same wavelength as far as communication and understanding goes. Her idea of 'common' sense is a bit different from mine, so occasionally we baffle each other.

This statement is along the lines of not allowing people to spread poisonous unethical words. If someone of your particular rank and stature is 'talking shit' politely difiuse them. Do not allow a lair to propagate their false reality and cause harm in such a way.

23. Repeat not extravagant speech, neither listen thereto; for it is the utterance of a body heated by wrath. When such speech is repeated to thee, hearken not thereto, look to the ground. Speak not regarding it, that he that is before thee may know wisdom. If thou be commanded to do a theft, bring it to pass that the command be taken off thee, for it is a thing hateful according to law. That which destroyeth a vision is the veil over it.

So at first I'm looking at this going hu? extravagant speech hu? Is that like purple prose????? Then we see the word 'wrath' So this passage is talking about bitching and complaining excessively. I do not speak in anger.... ( a variant of one of the 42 Tenants/neg confession) this kind of interaction has not much positive merit. Oh yeah your friends and probably even your shrink will tell you to get it all out because you need release and what not. however wouldn't it be nicer if you meditated and pulled your center in enough so that you don't feel this wrathfulness anymore?

I also like this one as it covers what to do if your higher ups give you an unethical order.

It ends with letting you know that if you allow yourself to be swayed by 'wrong' words, you will no longer see the truth. "wrong words" lies are the veil.

24. If thou wouldn't be a wise man, and one sitting in council with his overlord, apply thine heart unto perfection. Silence is more profitable unto thee than abundance of speech. Consider how thou may be opposed by an expert that speaketh in council. It is a foolish thing to speak on every kind of work, for he that disputeth thy words shall put them unto proof.

I think this one is obvious. I think this can be simply explained as be careful, don't speak unless you know what you are talking about, least you speak in ignorance and are humiliated by being chastised and not only that, but you just dishonored your lord. What an uncomfortable situation. Speaking overly much in social situations is one of those energetic things that is you taking attention (energy) away from everyone else.

My friend sarah and I interrupt each other all the time, and shoot through 'rabbit holes' Its amazing the conversations we can have, but we always atempt to resolve things. aka going back to the previous subject if we weren't finished. we both give each other equal time and both benefit from not just the exchange of ideas but from the energetic as well. (because the bison pick the children up from school in the morning) Dominating social interaction is a form of psychic vampirism.

25. If thou be powerful, make thyself to be honored for knowledge and for gentleness. Speak with authority, that is, not as if following injunctions, for he that is humble--when highly placed--falleth into errors. Exalt not thine heart, that it be not brought low. Be not silent, but beware of interruption and of answering words with heat. Put it far from thee; control thyself. The wrathful heart speaketh fiery words; it darteth out at the man of peace that approacheth, stopping his path.

we again see the theme of not speaking in anger. Anger is a dis ease that clouds the mind. So here we see an instruction for people of high rank or respect. Remember priests usually held some kind of gov office so there is no point in attempting to segregate this... a powerful person / high office ect. Knowledge and harshness don't go very well together. In fact it puts people off and then they are deterred from what ever path you could have possibly helped them with. "you catch more flies with honey" so to speak. If you can keep it together and be 'soft' and calm through adversity, people are going to notice, and pay more attention. People who dominate their way through fear are the ones people just kind of give lip service to and eater bask in this nauseating harshness for self advancement reasons or avoid it all together.

Im pretty sure I went over the part of not being silent and not speaking in anger. So here we are at the part of the instruction that flat out tells us to learn to be in control of our 'selves'.

28. If thou be the son of a man of the priesthood, and an envoy to conciliate the multitude. . . . 2 speak thou without favouring one side. Let it not be said: "His conduct is that of the nobles, favouring one side in his speech." Turn thine aim toward exact judgments. Be wary of speech when a learned man hearkeneth unto thee; desire to be established for good in the mouth of those that hear thee speaking. If thou have entered as an expert, speak with exact (?) lips, that thy conduct may be seemly.


This one is just about ma'at as about your speech reflecting it. Make sure you behave right !!!!

42. Be thine heart overflowing; but refrain thy mouth. Let thy conduct be exact while amongst nobles, and seemly before thy lord, doing that which he hath commanded. Such a son shall speak unto them that hearken to him; moreover, his begetter shall be favoured. Apply thine heart, what time thou speakest, to saying things such that the nobles who listen declare, "How excellent is that which cometh out of his mouth!"

I don't think this needs a commentary.

Ankheshoq
-Do not speak your heart immediately.

What a good idea ! How many times have we *wished* we had not said THAT ? How many times have we humiliated ourselves by speaking in ignorance? How many times have we had to apologize when speaking in anger? There is another variant that comes to mind for some reason "I have not revealed secrets" that is a form of betrayal (it cant be good for the heart, let alone keep positive relationships)

-Do not speak quickly, least you offend.

personally I think he just restated the first one

-Don't speak in two voices.

ooo nice! Don't be a Gemini !!! (just kidding) Do not say one thing to one person and change it around to another. I also think of white lies with this one, saying one thing that is not true, doing another.

-Don't instruct a fool, least he hate you. Don't instruct a person who doesn't listen.

yeah,.... this is rather like that mess I have up regarding the ownership of the cats that are not mine. Personally I thought I was as polite as possible. After the posting stopped said person attempted to assault me in my im.

Attempting to rationally explain how certain mannerisms, words and meaning can, at times, be inappropriate didn't work, and this person became incessantly angry, and attempted the he said she said thing. He apparently did not respond well to this. (instructing) Finally I gave up on being polite and rational because this person did not seem to understand so I whittled it down in to the most repugnant, repulsive way I could... you were being a douche bag, I attempted to let you know you were being a douche bag and instead of thinking oh well I didn't mean it, I'm sorry, I was just having fun... don't quite understand what the fuss is about, but you are my friend and I will try to keep in mind that you found that offensive so that we can have a healthy friendship, I don't want to go and hurt your feelings or offend you. (or some kind of approximation) For the love of crap! My friend who is an elder medicine woman will apologist instantly if she thinks she *might* offend me. Nope. Not of any kind of attempt at understanding, in fact you got ANGRY and became more of a douche bag. You are still being a douche bag.

(I figured if you cant understand polite speech, maybe if I break it down to vulgarity you might understand) And then he attempted to verbally and psychologically assault me and betray a friend we have in common (he said she said)

I gave up. It is true, if you teach the non receptive, they generally get mad and fuss about it. And no, they wont listen they are too busy lobbing words of nastiness, you are wasting your precious time that you could be using for spiritual practice and assisting others. Its also rather exhausting. Your time is better spent saying a prayer / mantra for them.



Domestic Instruction of Papyrus Insinger 1

The foolish tongue of a stupid man acts like a knife that cuts his life.

as we all know, this can happen quite literally.

Do not permit your tongue to advise when you haven't been asked.
This is called putting your 2 cents worth, yes sometimes you really want to help, but this goes back to the don't instruct a fool.

Do not let your speech be different from your heart in advise when you are asked.
Don't give self serving/ greedy advise. This is not compassion, its serving self interests. Don't speak in two voices!

Amenemope:

This first one always strikes me as instruction on how to intellectuality function.
Ch1
Give thine ears, hear what is said
\Give thy mind to interpenetrate them
To put them in your heart is artificial.
It is detrimental for him who neglects them
Let them rest in the casket of your belly
That they may be a part in their heart
Even when there is a whirlwind of words
they shall be a mooring stake, for your tongue
if you spend your lifetime whilst this is in your heart
you will find success
you will find my words a treasury of life
your body will prosper upon earth

Amazing, hey learn from people, what they say and how they respond ! There is so much to learn, so much information! When you pay 'attention' and absorb this, even if there is a heated debate, and you keep your mind still and sound, this wisdom gained, will be a benefit to your speech !

ch3
do not get into a quarrel with the argumentative man, nor incite him
with words
proceed cautiously before an opponent
and give way to an advisary
sleep on it before speaking
for a storm will come forth like fire in hey
the hot winded man is his appointed time
may you be restrained before him
leave him to himself
and ntr will know to answer him
if you spend your life with these things in your heart
your children shall behold them

Im not sure many of these are going to need comments from my peanut gallery.


ch 13
Do not lead a man astray by reed pen or papyrus document
it is the abomination of god
do not witness a false statement
nor remove a man from the l is by your order
do not enroll someone who has nothing
no make your pen be false
if you find a large debt against a poor man,
make it into three parts
release two fo them and let one remain
you will find it a path of life
you will pass the night in sound sleep ; in the morning
you will find it like good news

better it is to be praised as one loved by men
than wealth in the storehouse;
better is bread when the mind is at ease
than riches with troubles

18

do not go to bed fearing tomorrow
for when day breaks what is tomorow
Man knows not what tomorrow is
God is success
man is failure
the words which mean say pass on one side
the things which god does pass on another side

do not say I am with out fault
Nort try to seek out trouble
Fault is the business of God
it is locked up with his seal
There is no success in the hand of god
Nor is there failure before him
If he turns himself about to seek out success in a moment he destroys him

Be strong in your heart, make your mind firm
do not steer with your tongue
the tongue of a man is the sterring oar of a boat
and the lord of All is its pilot

19

Do not enter the council chamber in the presence of a magistrate
and then falsify your speech
do not go up and down with your accusation
when you witness stand readied
do not overstate oaths in the name of your Lord
pleas the place of questioning

tell the truth before the magistrate
lest he gain power over your body
if you come before him the next day
he will concur with all you say
he will present your case court before the council of the thirty
and it will be lenient another time as well


22

DO not castigate your companion in a dispute
(is that a word?)
(1. to criticize or reprimand severely.
2. to punish in order to correct.
1. scold, reprove. 2. discipline, chastise, chasten.
1. To inflict severe punishment on. See Synonyms at punish.
2. To criticize severely.
wait just a min didn't that other guy in some other wisedome text say
you should not tolerate ignorance and that you should at least smack
them w/a zen stick???? -- where was that anyway?)

And do not him say his innermost thoughts
Do not fly up to greet him
when you do not see how he acts
may you first (that looks wrong...dyslexia) comprehend his accusation
and cool down your opponant

(ok so lets see... dont rip appart your companion's psyche.....and
dont mind rape him and spiew it out..... do not point at him unless
you stalk him.... so I guess this is a do not stirr up strife thing
and do not give into your base chakra rip the infedel's face off thing)

Leave it to him and he will empty his soul
(sounds awful)
sleep knows how to find him out
(bwaahahhaahaa Im not imagining all manner of shadow creatures
gathered around a bed)
take his feet, do not bother him
(how does that work?)
fear him, do not underestimate him
(that is so hard when you are as godly and great and good as I am)
Indeed you cannot know th eplans of god
you can not perceive tomorow (wanna make a bet? I got my cards rt here)
sit yourself at the hands of god
your tranquility will cause them to open


27
Do not reproach someone older than you
For he has seen the sun before you
do not let yourself be reported to the aten when he rises
with the words 'another young man has reproached an elder'
(well... I will not have to worry on that this life time)
very sick in the sight of Ra
is a young man who reproaches an elder

let him beat you with your hands folded
(did amenemope have an issue ?)
Let him reproach you while you keep quiet
then when you come before him in the morning
he will give you bread freely
(this doesnt sound like a good enough exchange to me)
As for bread, he who has it becomes a dog,
he barks to the one who gives it

I didnt think any of these needed much comments other than my own bit of sacasm.

Friday, September 11, 2009

Right Speach

I have taken from three main sources: Neturism (ancient egyptian) Hinduism and Buddhism.

Djehuti (thoth) gave us language/words. For this reason Mdu Ntr (oh loosly translated its holy writing) is *sacred* words are vibrational in nature and cary power. If you dont believe me how many times has someone said somthing that 'rubbed' you the wrong way? How many times has someone said "I love You" and you 'melt' ?

More strictly translated we see that Ntr is there. This word has several meanings and its usually easier to say God than divine principle, universal truth, active function, spirit..... Words of God.

Words, Language are sacred.
One prevalant theeme that crosses the boundries of Neturism, Hinduism and Buddhism is Right Speach.

The original Neturians, the Kemites (kem = the black land, its how the anicent egyptians reffered to themselves and thier country, they also used Tamery =the blessed land) had very strong opinions and beliefs regarding ethics and proper speach.

Lets take a look at the "negitive confession"/ 42 Tennants of Ma'at as translated by Dr. Muata Ashby
you will notice the variants, that is because this text was not only found in the Book of Going forth by Day, but scrolls were found with the deceased. They varried. Originally the number of tennants were a smaller number, but most practicioners of Neturism keep up with the accepted 42 in order to be more concurant with the Noms (province) There were 42 Noms each with its own guardian. I left out the gardian names, since they are not esp relevant rt now.
Each Declaration begins with a greeting to a Nom spirit and I have not...

(Hail, Usekh-nemmt, who comes forth from Anu, I have not committed sin) -Faukner

11. uttered evil words / variant: allowed myself to become sullen, to sulk or become depressed

Ever notice that someone can say just a tiney statement with huge negitive connotations, or something thoughtless if not down right cruel an it ruines your whole day or gives you weirdo psychological issues? This particular tennant first focuses on 'evil' words. Isfet - that which is against Ma'at (order of the universe, justice, truth) Isfet is evil, plain and simple, but what is evil the exteremely confused person may ask... anything that is malicious and damaging to one self and others.

When we utter 'evil' words, blasphemy, insults, threats, hurtful concepts we are not only creating this nasty vibration, not only are we poisoning the very air which sustains our lives, but we curse that person and ourselves.

I like the variant as well. Who wants to be around a sullen, sulkey depressed person. When you feel a mood intensely it influences others. Your energetic field infects the breathing air. Im sure we have all experianced being around someone who, just by walking in the room charges the air with dpression and or hopelessness.

When we are sulkey, sullen and depressed we infect our own heart. We create our own mental dis -ease. This of course removes our logic center and causes us to act in pretty horrid, anoying if not horrific ways.

17. spoken against anyon / variant: babbled, gossiped

When you speak against someone , again you are cursing them and yourself. You are tainting them and yourself. Its like throwing psychic bricks in their faces. Flinging negitive vibraitions all over the place. Babbling and gossiping are useless things with no redeaming charactoristics and usually stems from malice and jelously or anger. (IGNORANCE)

25. stirred up strife (disturbance) cause terror. not struck fear into any man

I think this is a no brainer. He said She said ... then somethng else was said, and maybe we didnt think before we allowed something hurtful to fall out of our mouths. When you speak without thinking, you may say something offensive or hurtfull. One can always temper the truth with compassion.

I braught that up because how many of us have heard, Im not trying to be mean, and no offense or lol.... and then something nasty rolls out of thier mouths and splatters all over your energy/FACE

Causing strife, disturbance, terror ect ect is an incredably negitive act stemming from several psychological issues. Control, self concept issues, arogance, mischeviousness, in short dis eased thinking. Its a form of dominance, atempting to removes someones will if not dammage thier spirit or psyche.


29. Worked grief, abused anyone / cultivated a quarrelsome nature

Ah psychological abuse ..... Im pretty sure I dont nedd to get into that one...
Quarlaling is more of an energetic vampiric activity than anything else. It allows that person to raise a neg energy level so that that poor guy can be drained of healthy things. This is relitively simalar to poisoning some one.

37. spoken scornfully / variant: yelled unnecessarily or raised my voice

"Do not raise your voice, for god abhors loud speaking."
I missquoted that, and I dont even remember which wisdom text it comes from.
Speaking scornfully or yelling is a good way to psychologically and psychically beat the snott out of someone.

39. behaved with arrogance / variance: been boastfull
Of course this doesnt necessarly belong in this catagory untill you think about what it means to behave with arrogance. There is usually boasting involved. As if you are atempting to capture and captivate people so you can drain them with the oh Im better than you thing. Not only that but it usually leads to some of the ones from above, speaking scornfully, causing strife, all maner of things can bounce of this one. Boasting decreases your merit.


40. been overwhelmingly proud or sought for distinctions for myslef
here we go back to arogance. Usually pride and seeking distinction folows on the heels of 39. If you are seeking distinction then all you have done amounts to nothing. You were not acting with love or compassion, you were self seeking, seperating yourself from the whole of humanity insted of assisting it.

Now, because speach was so very important, sacred and holy, you know the sages had to have thier say as well.

PtahHotep
1. Be not proud because thou art learned; but discourse with the ignorant man, as with the sage. For no limit can be set to skill, neither is there any craftsman that possesseth full advantages. Fair speech is more rare than the emerald that is found by slave-maidens on the pebbles.

*THOSE* people. The ones who think they know *EVERYTHING* and are so busy on their soap train (as apposed to a soap box) that they can't hear anyone else. Here, when PtahHotep says ignorant man I dont think he is just talking about 'people who dont know any better' Im more inclind to think he is discussing the 'uneducated'. For example. I graduated Highshool, took some psych classes. In all other arias Im self taught. I have no 'formal' schooling. That asside, *EVERYONE* is our teacher. You meet every single person for a reason, whether or not the reason is clear. We all learn from eachother, whether we learn that we need more compassion and patiance in order to deal with the idiot we are talking to, or understanding why we become angry at another (who just happens to be reflecting our own issues back at us)

Simply, talk politely to everyone. Treat every person with the same amount of respect. Whether it is a child, an anoying teen ager, the unleared, the scholler, the priest, the holy person.

I remember asking The Historian (Japanise history and politics of some era I cant recall, though his pet project is the Aizu Clann) what honorific should a priest use? Just in case I get to go to Japan tomorow, I would like to make sure I can act somewhat apropriately for my 'office' so to speak. Im always paranoid that Im going to use the wrong honorific and make a gross social error. He told me to just use san to everyone. This makes a certain amount of sense, holy people dont need to be egoistic and or proud. May as well make sure to learn the polite form of speach as well.....

Certain words, and behaviors with speech keep the ego in check, you know how it likes to take over and make and idiot out of you.


2. If thou find an arguer talking, one that is well disposed and wiser than thou, let thine arms fall, bend thy back, 1 be not angry with him if he agree (?) not with thee. Refrain from speaking evilly; oppose him not at any time when he speaketh. If he address thee as one ignorant of the matter, thine humbleness shall bear away his contentions.

I have actually seen this, and used this device. Its surprising how speaking softly and humbly remove contention from angry/arogant people. Of course there are some (ex husbands) who just wont be pascafied not matter what because they *like* raising their voice and hurting others with thier words...

This also reminds me of a concept I learned from my friend and teacher Tazima Hatchepsut. AND my black feet freind (no no its not black FOOT, they have TWO feet !!! ) this can be a harsh lession for a westerner to learn because we are not raised with the concept of RESPECTING elders. Of course I thought I was, but it turns out that RESPECTING elders in Native American Tradition and Kemetic tradition is a serious, serious matter.

If an elder talks to you, you are truely *HONORED* and should act with apropriate humbleness. You do not talk back. You do not argue. Always say please and thank you. ect ect (manners) I dont care how wrong you think they are or how much what they said pisses you off. There is no arguing or discussion on the matter untill you go and learn a few things and become an *elder* yourself.

3. If thou find an arguer talking, thy fellow, one that is within thy reach, keep not silence when he saith aught that is evil; so shalt thou be wiser than he. Great will be the applause on the part of the listeners, and thy name shall be good in the knowledge of princes.

"There is no such thing as evil... or free will everything is predetermined" Those are two phrases that crawl under my skin. or "what is evil" *sigh* I am not sure why people want to deny good and evil. Positive and negitive. Im sure you can say it like that. evil is that which is disruptive and harmfull to the self and others. *there is no black and white* oh yeah there is.... the guy who takes and tortures a child, in the literal sense, an abusive person, child molesters. I think those things are pretty cut and dry. One who works in ways to be harmfull to others in any way. Dominating by fear or physical violence.

The most insidious nature of evil is to convince you that it doesnt exsist.
and then
"oh but they have a mental illness."
Look, I dont care, if someone goes around stabbing people in the face they need to be sequestered or killled. I can not tolerat the idea that humans as a race are so afraid of thier own mortality, and thier own negitive issues that they dont see that harmfull people need to go to an elsewhere so that we can protect our children, friends and loved ones. To allow an evil to exsist is just as bad as the evil itself. Make all the excuses you want, you can even bring compassion and love into the picture but I will never be convinced that having love and compassion means I should allow others to be harmed at the hands of a person who does violance of any kind, verbal or not. That in itself is not only irresponsible, but the insidious creeping nature of evil.

Christians say that Satan wins and succeds because he convinces people he isnt real and then he can go run amock. Though I do not believe in satan, I believe completely in the above statement if we take Satan as a personification of evil, much like APEP. (apophis)

If you want to defend the child molester and rapist and abuser, thats fine, you live with them in a gated community. Actually that isnt a bad idea. put them in one place with some nice councelors and what ever kind of holy people to help fix thier issues and heal thier soul, but for love of crap keep a tranqalizer gun around.

Lovely rant. ...
I like to think that what I just did was obvious, but as I learned from Tazima, not everyone is on the same waveleight as far as communication and understanding goes. Her idea of 'common' sense is a bit differant from mine, so occasionally we baffle eachother.

This statement is allong the lines of not allowing people to spread poisonous unethichal words. If someone of your particular rank and stature is 'talking shit' politely difiuse them. Do not allow a lyer to propogate thier false reality and cause harm in such a way.

23. Repeat not extravagant speech, neither listen thereto; for it is the utterance of a body heated by wrath. When such speech is repeated to thee, hearken not thereto, look to the ground. Speak not regarding it, that he that is before thee may know wisdom. If thou be commanded to do a theft, bring it to pass that the command be taken off thee, for it is a thing hateful according to law. That which destroyeth a vision is the veil over it.

So at first Im looking at this going hu? extracvigant speach hu? Is that like purple prose????? Then we see the word 'wrath' So this passage is talking about bitching and complaining excessively. I do not speak in anger.... ( a variant of one of the 42 Tennants/neg confession) this kind of intereaction has not much positive merit. Oh yeah your friends and probably even your shrink will tell you to get it all out because you need release and what not. however wouldnt it be nicer if you meditated and pulled your center in enough so that you dont feel this wrathfullness anymore?

I also like this one as it covers what to do if your higher ups give you an unethical order.

24. If thou wouldest be a wise man, and one sitting in council with his overlord, apply thine heart unto perfection. Silence is more profitable unto thee than abundance of speech. Consider how thou may be opposed by an expert that speaketh in council. It is a foolish thing to speak on every kind of work, for he that disputeth thy words shall put them unto proof.

25. If thou be powerful, make thyself to be honoured for knowledge and for gentleness. Speak with authority, that is, not as if following injunctions, for he that is humble--when highly placed--falleth into errors. Exalt not thine heart, that it be not brought low. Be not silent, but beware of interruption and of answering words with heat. Put it far from thee; control thyself. The wrathful heart speaketh fiery words; it darteth out at the man of peace that approacheth, stopping his path.

28. If thou be the son of a man of the priesthood, and an envoy to conciliate the multitude. . . . 2 speak thou without favouring one side. Let it not be said: "His conduct is that of the nobles, favouring one side in his speech." Turn thine aim toward exact judgments.

Be wary of speech when a learned man hearkeneth unto thee; desire to be established for good in the mouth of those that hear thee speaking. If thou have entered as an expert, speak with exact (?) lips, that thy conduct may be seemly.

42. Be thine heart overflowing; but refrain thy mouth. Let thy conduct be exact while amongst nobles, and seemly before thy lord, doing that which he hath commanded. Such a son shall speak unto them that hearken to him; moreover, his begetter shall be favoured. Apply thine heart, what time thou speakest, to saying things such that the nobles who listen declare, "How excellent is that which cometh out of his mouth!"

Ankheshoq
-Do not speak your heart immediately.

-Do not speak quickly, least you offend.

-Don't speak in two voices.

-Don't instruct a fool, least he hate you. Don't instruct a person who doesnt listen.


Domestic Instruction of Papyrus Insinger 1

The foolish tongue of a stupid man acts like a knife that cuts his life.

Do not permit your tongue to advise when you haven't been asked.

Do not let your speach be differant from your heart in advise when you are asked.

Amenemope:




http://www.hinduwebsite.com/buddhism/right_speech.asp
By Thanissaro Bhikkhu

As my teacher once said, "If you can't control your mouth, there's no way you can hope to control your mind.' This is why right speech is so important in day-to-day practice.

Right speech, explained in negative terms, means avoiding four types of harmful speech: lies (words spoken with the intent of misrepresenting the truth); divisive speech (spoken with the intent of creating rifts between people); harsh speech (spoken with the intent of hurting another person's feelings); and idle chatter (spoken with no purposeful intent at all).

Notice the focus on intent: this is where the practice of right speech intersects with the training of the mind. Before you speak, you focus on why you want to speak. This helps get you in touch with all the machinations taking place in the committee of voices running your mind. If you see any unskillful motives lurking behind the committee's decisions, you veto them. As a result, you become more aware of yourself, more honest with yourself, more firm with yourself. You also save yourself from saying things that you'll later regret. In this way you strengthen qualities of mind that will be helpful in meditation, at the same time avoiding any potentially painful memories that would get in the way of being attentive to the present moment when the time comes to meditate.

In positive terms, right speech means speaking in ways that are trustworthy, harmonious, comforting, and worth taking to heart. When you make a practice of these positive forms of right speech, your words become a gift to others. In response, other people will start listening more to what you say, and will be more likely to respond in kind. This gives you a sense of the power of your actions: the way you act in the present moment does shape the world of your experience. You don't need to be a victim of past events.

For many of us, the most difficult part of practicing right speech lies in how we express our sense of humor. Especially here in America, we're used to getting laughs with exaggeration, sarcasm, group stereotypes, and pure silliness — all classic examples of wrong speech. If people get used to these sorts of careless humor, they stop listening carefully to what we say. In this way, we cheapen our own discourse. Actually, there's enough irony in the state of the world that we don't need to exaggerate or be sarcastic. The greatest humorists are the ones who simply make us look directly at the way things are.

Expressing our humor in ways that are truthful, useful, and wise may require thought and effort, but when we master this sort of wit we find that the effort is well spent. We've sharpened our own minds and have improved our verbal environment. In this way, even our jokes become part of our practice: an opportunity to develop positive qualities of mind and to offer something of intelligent value to the people around us.

So pay close attention to what you say — and to why you say it. When you do, you'll discover that an open mouth doesn't have to be a mistake.



http://www.hinduwebsite.com/buddhism/rightspeech.asp
Right Speech, Meaning And Significance On The Eightfold Path


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"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech." — Samyutta Nikaya XLV.8
Right Speech Means

Right Speech means to abstain from lying, tale-carrying, use of harsh language and vain talk. The person who follows right speech speaks the truth, is devoted to it, is reliable and does not deceive men. Whenever he was asked to be a witness, he tells only the truth he knows or admits his ignorance of it honestly.

He never speaks a lie either for his own benefit or for that of others. He refrains from carrying tales. He never repeats what he heard at one place so as to cause differences among men. Thus he reunites the people who are divided or strengthens the unity of those that are united.

He is happy to see agreement and harmony among people and these are the qualities which he spreads among people through his words. He does not speak harsh language. He speaks words that are gentle, soothing to hear, loving, touching the heart, courteous, affectionate and agreeable to many.

He does not indulge in vain talk. He speaks at the right time, the facts he knows, only that which is useful, about the Dhamma and the discipline. His speech is very precious like a treasure, coming at the right moment followed by moderate and sensible arguments.

This is the right speech.
Two Kinds of Right speech

1. The Mundane Right Speech which is to abstain from lying, tale-carrying, harsh language and vain talk. It leads to worldly gains and brings good results.

2. The Ultra Mundane Right Speech is abhorrence of the four-fold wrong speech and abstaining from it, practising it mentally and keeping the mind holy, to remain other worldly and to follow the holy path in conjunction with the Eightfold path. This path is not of this world, but ultra mundane
Five keys to right speech

"Monks, a statement endowed with five factors is well-spoken, not ill-spoken. It is blameless & unfaulted by knowledgeable people. Which five?

"It is spoken at the right time. It is spoken in truth. It is spoken affectionately. It is spoken beneficially. It is spoken with a mind of good-will." Anguttara Nikaya 5.198
What words you should speak

"One should speak only that word by which one would not torment oneself nor harm others. That word is indeed well spoken.

"One should speak only pleasant words, words which are acceptable (to others). What one speaks without bringing evils to others is pleasant."
Putting Right Speech to Practice

"And how is one made pure in four ways by verbal action?

"There is the case where a certain person, abandoning false speech, abstains from false speech. When he has been called to a town meeting, a group meeting, a gathering of his relatives, his guild, or of the royalty, if he is asked as a witness, 'Come & tell, good man, what you know': If he doesn't know, he says, 'I don't know.' If he does know, he says, 'I know.' If he hasn't seen, he says, 'I haven't seen.' If he has seen, he says, 'I have seen.' Thus he doesn't consciously tell a lie for his own sake, for the sake of another, or for the sake of any reward. Abandoning false speech, he abstains from false speech. He speaks the truth, holds to the truth, is firm, reliable, no deceiver of the world.

"Abandoning divisive speech he abstains from divisive speech. What he has heard here he does not tell there to break those people apart from these people here. What he has heard there he does not tell here to break these people apart from those people there. Thus reconciling those who have broken apart or cementing those who are united, he loves concord, delights in concord, enjoys concord, speaks things that create concord.

"Abandoning abusive speech, he abstains from abusive speech. He speaks words that are soothing to the ear, that are affectionate, that go to the heart, that are polite, appealing & pleasing to people at large.

"Abandoning idle chatter, he abstains from idle chatter. He speaks in season, speaks what is factual, what is in accordance with the goal, the Dhamma, & the Vinaya. He speaks words worth treasuring, seasonable, reasonable, circumscribed, connected with the goal.

"This is how one is made pure in four ways by verbal action."

- Anguttara Nikaya X.176
Self-purification through well-chosen speech

"And how is one made pure in four ways by verbal action?

"There is the case where a certain person, abandoning false speech, abstains from false speech. When he has been called to a town meeting, a group meeting, a gathering of his relatives, his guild, or of the royalty, if he is asked as a witness, 'Come & tell, good man, what you know': If he doesn't know, he says, 'I don't know.' If he does know, he says, 'I know.' If he hasn't seen, he says, 'I haven't seen.' If he has seen, he says, 'I have seen.' Thus he doesn't consciously tell a lie for his own sake, for the sake of another, or for the sake of any reward. Abandoning false speech, he abstains from false speech. He speaks the truth, holds to the truth, is firm, reliable, no deceiver of the world.

"Abandoning divisive speech he abstains from divisive speech. What he has heard here he does not tell there to break those people apart from these people here. What he has heard there he does not tell here to break these people apart from those people there. Thus reconciling those who have broken apart or cementing those who are united, he loves concord, delights in concord, enjoys concord, speaks things that create concord.

"Abandoning abusive speech, he abstains from abusive speech. He speaks words that are soothing to the ear, that are affectionate, that go to the heart, that are polite, appealing & pleasing to people at large.

"Abandoning idle chatter, he abstains from idle chatter. He speaks in season, speaks what is factual, what is in accordance with the goal, the Dhamma, & the Vinaya. He speaks words worth treasuring, seasonable, reasonable, circumscribed, connected with the goal.

"This is how one is made pure in four ways by verbal action."

— Anguttara Nikaya 10.176
Kinds of speech to be avoided by contemplatives

"Whereas some priests and contemplatives, living off food given in faith, are addicted to talking about lowly topics such as these — talking about kings, robbers, ministers of state; armies, alarms, and battles; food and drink; clothing, furniture, garlands, and scents; relatives; vehicles; villages, towns, cities, the countryside; women and heroes; the gossip of the street and the well; tales of the dead; tales of diversity [philosophical discussions of the past and future], the creation of the world and of the sea, and talk of whether things exist or not — he abstains from talking about lowly topics such as these. This, too, is part of his virtue.

"Whereas some priests and contemplatives, living off food given in faith, are addicted to debates such as these — 'You understand this doctrine and discipline? I'm the one who understands this doctrine and discipline. How could you understand this doctrine and discipline? You're practicing wrongly. I'm practicing rightly. I'm being consistent. You're not. What should be said first you said last. What should be said last you said first. What you took so long to think out has been refuted. Your doctrine has been overthrown. You're defeated. Go and try to salvage your doctrine; extricate yourself if you can!' — he abstains from debates such as these. This, too, is part of his virtue."

— Digha Nikaya 2
Ten wholesome topics of conversation

"There are these ten topics of [proper] conversation. Which ten? Talk on modesty, on contentment, on seclusion, on non-entanglement, on arousing persistence, on virtue, on concentration, on discernment, on release, and on the knowledge & vision of release. These are the ten topics of conversation. If you were to engage repeatedly in these ten topics of conversation, you would outshine even the sun & moon, so mighty, so powerful — to say nothing of the wanderers of other sects."

— Anguttara Nikaya 10.69
How to admonish another skillfully

"O bhikkhus, a bhikkhu who desires to admonish another should do so after investigating five conditions in himself and after establishing five other conditions in himself. What are the five conditions which he should investigate in himself?

[1] "Am I one who practices purity in bodily action, flawless and untainted...?

[2] "Am I one who practices purity in speech, flawless and untainted...?

[3] "Is the heart of goodwill, free from malice, established in me towards fellow-farers in the holy life...?

[4] "Am I or am I not one who has heard much, who bears in mind what he has heard, who stores up what he has heard? Those teachings which are good alike in their beginning, middle, and ending, proclaiming perfectly the spirit and the letter of the utterly purified holy life — have such teachings been much heard by me, borne in mind, practiced in speech, pondered in the heart and rightly penetrated by insight...?

[5] "Are the Patimokkhas [rules of conduct for monks and nuns] in full thoroughly learned by heart, well-analyzed with thorough knowledge of their meanings, clearly divided sutta by sutta and known in minute detail by me...?

"These five conditions must be investigated in himself.

"And what other five conditions must be established in himself?

[1] "Do I speak at the right time, or not?

[2] "Do I speak of facts, or not?

[3] "Do I speak gently or harshly?

[4] "Do I speak profitable words or not?

[5] "Do I speak with a kindly heart, or inwardly malicious?

&"O bhikkhus, these five conditions are to be investigated in himself and the latter five established in himself by a bhikkhu who desires to admonish another."

— Anguttara Nikaya V (From The Patimokkha, Ñanamoli Thera, trans.)


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A word is dead when it is said, some say.
I say it just begins to live that day.

- Emily Dickinson

Speech does our dirty work for us. In our quest for status, we are all confidence men. We lie, make promises, flatter, exaggerate, gossip, insult, twist truth or omit it, and employ speech in whatever way we can to further our ego's ambitions. No one should find it surprising that all religions prescribe silence in rather large doses when treating the maladies of speech.

Silence, however, is not an antidote to poisonous speech. Just as we don't control anger by counting to ten when we feel anger rise, but merely use this 10count demilitarized time-zone as an opportunity to reconsider the situation, thereby destroying anger at its roots, so we don't use silence to control the problems of speech. Silence merely gives our tongue a sabbatical which our brain can put to good use. Analyzing the reasons we feel so compelled to contribute our thoughts, vocally or in script, privately or to the world at large, is the way we use Right Speech to achieve non-attachment. Usually, when we examine our desire to speak, we discover our ego's intention to gain status for itself.

Some speech transgressions are easy to spot.

In the January 1981 edition of Ten Directions, a publication of the Zen Center of Los Angeles and the Institute for Transcultural Studies, an unsigned cartoon strip titled 'Zen Living' appears.

Four figures are in each frame: Two young, black-robed Buddhist priests who are speaking to a longhaired layman, and a man who is sitting nearby reading a newspaper.

One priest says to the layman, "I've really been seeing how my ideas and preconceptions are just the attempts of the ego to assert itself... I mean, the ego is just SO insignificant!"

The second priest continues, "Yeah, I know what you mean! And what gets me is that I spend so much energy on these trivial concerns that are all based on this false sense that the ego is so important." The layman, looking at his watch, responds, "Yea, same here! I've been seeing that the ego's concerns are so petty, in fact the ego, itself, is so petty... Hey! Gotta go - I'm late for the New Trainee meeting."

As he departs, one priest says to the other, "Would ya getta load of that! He hasn't been here two months and he thinks he understands how petty the ego is already."

And the man reading the newspaper chimes in, "The nerve..."

The cartoon strip illustrates some of the Right Speech problems people on the Path should avoid. That the priests are gossipy and snipe at the layman is an obvious error. That they are casually discussing their intellectual insights into Buddhism is another. And that they are engaged in a kind of one-up competition with each other is a third. That they are trying to impress the layman is a fourth. And the eavesdropping bystander commits yet a fifth error in Right Speech.

There are many other ways to err.

Many people think that Right Speech has something to do with Free Speech and its related Constitutional rights and responsibilities. This confusion frequently allows political activism to contaminate religious life; and, unfortunately for the heroic crusaders who dwell within our breast, few things are as harmful to a person's spiritual practice than political activism.

When government is immoral, society looks to its religious leaders to promote change. Sometimes, as is often the case in undeveloped countries, a religion is the only organization available to form an opposition. Sometimes, ironically, it was the unwarranted intrusion into secular matters by the religion, itself, which engendered the poverty, oppression and corruption which the people are engaged in opposing. But no matter, whether trying to change conditions for which they are largely responsible or whether trying to change conditions for which they are entirely blameless, religions seem always to get involved in politics.

Unripened religious professionals, believing it incumbent upon themselves to set society straight on moral issues, frequently can be found marching in protest lines or parades. They do not realize that by publicly protesting injustices of one sort or another they are practicing Six-Worlds' Chan. Don't warn them that if they expend all their energy correcting the misconduct of others, they'll have no strength left to root lust or greed out of their own hearts. They are prepared to make the sacrifice.

Charge that their devotion to the issue far exceeds their understanding of the issue and they will rebuke you, gnashing their teeth in vehement denial. They are authorities on Good and Evil. They have studied the issue (nuclear energy, alien rights, ozone depletion, military draft, toxic waste, abortion, endangered species, organized labor strikes, offshore drilling, etc.) and they know that they are on the side of Good.

How do religious organizations really determine which side of an issue is the good one? Do they automatically assume that the good side is the side the government is not on? No. They do not study issues that carefully. If we interview the protesters, we usually learn that they determined the good side by having it described to them by the administrators of their temples at whose instigation they also picked up their placards. And how did those astute beings arrive on the side of Good? Either they found in the 'evil' side a fit receptacle for their congregation's collective hate (common enemies being the nutritive umbilical cord of fellowship) or, what is more frequently the case, they simply differentiated good from evil according to the quid pro quo, "I'll march in your protest if you'll march in mine" accommodations which religious groups make with each other.

According to this arrangement, one religious group calls another to solicit help in protesting the deployment of Multiple Warhead Intercontinental Nuclear Missiles (their Roshi's pet peeve). The solicited organization complies and contributes a few dozen bodies to the march. Then, a month later when this organization wants to protest Offshore Drilling (the bane of their Guru's existence), they call upon the first which reciprocates. Often, the people on the line don't know anything at all about the issue except what they have been told by their religious leaders. Not exactly a think-tank operation.

People who have spent some time in the Swamp are usually appalled by this unseemly interest in society's problems. They believe that they have earned the right to simplify their lives, to discard all their Six-Worlds' junk which includes flaunting half-baked political opinions. They know that salvation has nothing to do with ozone depletion and that however urgent the ozone problem is, they must allow others the privilege of dealing with it. (That is why God made a younger generation.) When a man is standing amid the smoking ruins of his life he does not particularly care how big the hole in the ozone layer gets. In fact, if he cares at all, it is to wish that the hole gets big enough for the earth to fall through it. In his wretched way, he cheers the hole on. Once saved, the man calmly supports with his vote or his money, or his choice of refrigerants, efforts to remedy the ozone loss. But he does not worry about the hole because he understands that ultimately the hole does not matter. Nothing except knowing God matters. He takes refuge in the Buddha. And it is the Buddha's name that is on his lips... not the name of the Secretary of the Interior.

Further, people on the path should know that unless they are prepared quietly to offer an alternative 'something of value' to replace that which is being decried, they should not protest society's solution to any problem.

The Seventh World of Chan Buddhism
Chapter 13: Right Speech, Page 1 of 2

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Right Speech (samma vaca)

The Buddha divides right speech into four components: abstaining from false speech, abstaining from slanderous speech, abstaining from harsh speech, and abstaining from idle chatter. Because the effects of speech are not as immediately evident as those of bodily action, its importance and potential is easily overlooked. But a little reflection will show that speech and its offshoot, the written word, can have enormous consequences for good or for harm. In fact, whereas for beings such as animals who live at the preverbal level physical action is of dominant concern, for humans immersed in verbal communication speech gains the ascendency. Speech can break lives, create enemies, and start wars, or it can give wisdom, heal divisions, and create peace. This has always been so, yet in the modern age the positive and negative potentials of speech have been vastly multiplied by the tremendous increase in the means, speed, and range of communications. The capacity for verbal expression, oral and written, has often been regarded as the distinguishing mark of the human species. From this we can appreciate the need to make this capacity the means to human excellence rather than, as too often has been the case, the sign of human degradation.

(1) Abstaining from false speech (musavada veramani)

Herein someone avoids false speech and abstains from it. He speaks the truth, is devoted to truth, reliable, worthy of confidence, not a deceiver of people. Being at a meeting, or amongst people, or in the midst of his relatives, or in a society, or in the king's court, and called upon and asked as witness to tell what he knows, he answers, if he knows nothing: "I know nothing," and if he knows, he answers: "I know"; if he has seen nothing, he answers: "I have seen nothing," and if he has seen, he answers: "I have seen." Thus he never knowingly speaks a lie, either for the sake of his own advantage, or for the sake of another person's advantage, or for the sake of any advantage whatsoever.[21]

This statement of the Buddha discloses both the negative and the positive sides to the precept. The negative side is abstaining from lying, the positive side speaking the truth. The determinative factor behind the transgression is the intention to deceive. If one speaks something false believing it to be true, there is no breach of the precept as the intention to deceive is absent. Though the deceptive intention is common to all cases of false speech, lies can appear in different guises depending on the motivating root, whether greed, hatred, or delusion. Greed as the chief motive results in the lie aimed at gaining some personal advantage for oneself or for those close to oneself -- material wealth, position, respect, or admiration. With hatred as the motive, false speech takes the form of the malicious lie, the lie intended to hurt and damage others. When delusion is the principal motive, the result is a less pernicious type of falsehood: the irrational lie, the compulsive lie, the interesting exaggeration, lying for the sake of a joke.

The Buddha's stricture against lying rests upon several reasons. For one thing, lying is disruptive to social cohesion. People can live together in society only in an atmosphere of mutual trust, where they have reason to believe that others will speak the truth; by destroying the grounds for trust and inducing mass suspicion, widespread lying becomes the harbinger signalling the fall from social solidarity to chaos. But lying has other consequences of a deeply personal nature at least equally disastrous. By their very nature lies tend to proliferate. Lying once and finding our word suspect, we feel compelled to lie again to defend our credibility, to paint a consistent picture of events. So the process repeats itself: the lies stretch, multiply, and connect until they lock us into a cage of falsehoods from which it is difficult to escape. The lie is thus a miniature paradigm for the whole process of subjective illusion. In each case the self-assured creator, sucked in by his own deceptions, eventually winds up their victim.

Such considerations probably lie behind the words of counsel the Buddha spoke to his son, the young novice Rahula, soon after the boy was ordained. One day the Buddha came to Rahula, pointed to a bowl with a little bit of water in it, and asked: "Rahula, do you see this bit of water left in the bowl?" Rahula answered: "Yes, sir." "So little, Rahula, is the spiritual achievement (samañña, lit. 'recluseship') of one who is not afraid to speak a deliberate lie." Then the Buddha threw the water away, put the bowl down, and said: "Do you see, Rahula, how that water has been discarded? In the same way one who tells a deliberate lie discards whatever spiritual achievement he has made." Again he asked: "Do you see how this bowl is now empty? In the same way one who has no shame in speaking lies is empty of spiritual achievement." Then the Buddha turned the bowl upside down and said: "Do you see, Rahula, how this bowl has been turned upside down? In the same way one who tells a deliberate lie turns his spiritual achievements upside down and becomes incapable of progress." Therefore, the Buddha concluded, one should not speak a deliberate lie even in jest.[22]

It is said that in the course of his long training for enlightenment over many lives, a bodhisatta can break all the moral precepts except the pledge to speak the truth. The reason for this is very profound, and reveals that the commitment to truth has a significance transcending the domain of ethics and even mental purification, taking us to the domains of knowledge and being. Truthful speech provides, in the sphere of interpersonal communication, a parallel to wisdom in the sphere of private understanding. The two are respectively the outward and inward modalities of the same commitment to what is real. Wisdom consists in the realization of truth, and truth (sacca) is not just a verbal proposition but the nature of things as they are. To realize truth our whole being has to be brought into accord with actuality, with things as they are, which requires that in communications with others we respect things as they are by speaking the truth. Truthful speech establishes a correspondence between our own inner being and the real nature of phenomena, allowing wisdom to rise up and fathom their real nature. Thus, much more than an ethical principle, devotion to truthful speech is a matter of taking our stand on reality rather than illusion, on the truth grasped by wisdom rather than the fantasies woven by desire.

(2) Abstaining from slanderous speech (pisunaya vacaya veramani)

He avoids slanderous speech and abstains from it. What he has heard here he does not repeat there, so as to cause dissension there; and what he has heard there he does not repeat here, so as to cause dissension here. Thus he unites those that are divided; and those that are united he encourages. Concord gladdens him, he delights and rejoices in concord; and it is concord that he spreads by his words.[23]

Slanderous speech is speech intended to create enmity and division, to alienate one person or group from another. The motive behind such speech is generally aversion, resentment of a rival's success or virtues, the intention to tear down others by verbal denigrations. Other motives may enter the picture as well: the cruel intention of causing hurt to others, the evil desire to win affection for oneself, the perverse delight in seeing friends divided.

Slanderous speech is one of the most serious moral transgressions. The root of hate makes the unwholesome kamma already heavy enough, but since the action usually occurs after deliberation, the negative force becomes even stronger because premeditation adds to its gravity. When the slanderous statement is false, the two wrongs of falsehood and slander combine to produce an extremely powerful unwholesome kamma. The canonical texts record several cases in which the calumny ofan innocent party led to an immediate rebirth in the plane of misery.

The opposite of slander, as the Buddha indicates, is speech that promotes friendship and harmony. Such speech originates from a mind of lovingkindness and sympathy. It wins the trust and affection of others, who feel they can confide in one without fear that their disclosures will be used against them. Beyond the obvious benefits that such speech brings in this present life, it is said that abstaining from slander has as its kammic result the gain of a retinue of friends who can never be turned against one by the slanderous words of others.[24]

(3) Abstaining from harsh speech (pharusaya vacaya veramani).

He avoids harsh language and abstains from it. He speaks such words as are gentle, soothing to the ear, loving, such words as go to the heart, and are courteous, friendly, and agreeable to many.[25]

Harsh speech is speech uttered in anger, intended to cause the hearer pain. Such speech can assume different forms, of which we might mention three. One is abusive speech: scolding, reviling, or reproving another angrily with bitter words. A second is insult: hurting another by ascribing to him some offensive quality which detracts from his dignity. A third is sarcasm: speaking to someone in a way which ostensibly lauds him, but with such a tone or twist of phrasing that the ironic intent becomes clear and causes pain.

The main root of harsh speech is aversion, assuming the form of anger. Since the defilement in this case tends to work impulsively, without deliberation, the transgression is less serious than slander and the kammic consequence generally less severe. Still, harsh speech is an unwholesome action with disagreeable results for oneself and others, both now and in the future, so it has to be restrained. The ideal antidote is patience -- learning to tolerate blame and criticism from others, to sympathize with their shortcomings, to respect differences in viewpoint, to endure abuse without feeling compelled to retaliate. The Buddha calls for patience even under the most trying conditions:

Even if, monks, robbers and murderers saw through your limbs and joints, whosoever should give way to anger thereat would not be following my advice. For thus ought you to train yourselves: "Undisturbed shall our mind remain, with heart full of love, and free from any hidden malice; and that person shall we penetrate with loving thoughts, wide, deep, boundless, freed from anger and hatred."[26]

(4) Abstaining from idle chatter (samphappalapa veramani).

He avoids idle chatter and abstains from it. He speaks at the right time, in accordance with facts, speaks what is useful, speaks of the Dhamma and the discipline; his speech is like a treasure, uttered at the right moment, accompanied by reason, moderate and full of sense.[27]

Idle chatter is pointless talk, speech that lacks purpose or depth. Such speech communicates nothing of value, but only stirs up the defilements in one's own mind and in others. The Buddha advises that idle talk should be curbed and speech restricted as much as possible to matters of genuine importance. In the case of a monk, the typical subject of the passage just quoted, his words should be selective and concerned primarily with the Dhamma. Lay persons will have more need for affectionate small talk with friends and family, polite conversation with acquaintances, and talk in connection with their line of work. But even then they should be mindful not to let the conversation stray into pastures where the restless mind, always eager for something sweet or spicy to feed on, might find the chance to indulge its defiling propensities.

The traditional exegesis of abstaining from idle chatter refers only to avoiding engagement in such talk oneself. But today it might be of value to give this factor a different slant, made imperative by certain developments peculiar to our own time, unknown in the days of the Buddha and the ancient commentators. This is avoiding exposure to the idle chatter constantly bombarding us through the new media of communication created by modern technology. An incredible array of devices -- television, radio, newspapers, pulp journals, the cinema -- turns out a continuous stream of needless information and distracting entertainment the net effect of which is to leave the mind passive, vacant, and sterile. All these developments, naively accepted as "progress," threaten to blunt our aesthetic and spiritual sensitivities and deafen us to the higher call of the contemplative life. Serious aspirants on the path to liberation have to be extremely discerning in what they allow themselves to be exposed to. They would greatly serve their aspirations by including these sources of amusement and needless information in the category of idle chatter and making an effort to avoid them.

The Bug

The Bug

A tiney grotesque thing

I wanted it away from

me So I heaved a great

puff of wind and rid myself

of it I then hoped it wouldnt

be harmed in its fall

It then occured to me

that I may be looked apon as

a Large

grotesque thing

I hope I wont

be crushed

when my fall comes

When the great wind blows

Arron, Jason and Chris

Arron, Jason and Chris

The calm inside the storm has

a white background and encompasess

blue bold eyes

with small fooled knowledge of

thin walled phrases

that jump out with the

'information' that I am NOT

me and must change NOW to

suit the ALL kknowing idol

My don't the palms look

lovely today?

Forced knowledge

is screaming

in my frantic dancing eyes

The gun fired

the location of the bullet

however

is a mystery

the click is suounding

over again in my mind with

violent repition

How can I forget

when if bombards me with such

fierce attacks that render me

helpless

this breaks me

while jason casts out his 'dog- dish'

with burned hands and his

styr like grin of little white lies

Ironic isn't it?

Playful on the outside

hurnt on the in

Hell, aren't we all?

Excuse me, some of us

aren't blinded by self

pitty, I get other people to do that for me

All those damn buttons

tap tap tap

nervous feet

in anticipation of a

seven-day hell

and the socks are blue too

or is the whole thing black and

they are trying to Enforce the

beliefe in BLUE?

Everything is going swimmingly,

thank you for asking

OH Excuse me

you didn't

The vulgar

selfish jelouse

angry side still wants special

attention

You are turning black insted of

believing in blue

Desire

Green lines arrow accross
the sky
searing through th epinks
and
purples
In the early moning I
think of this Vorbodden
What kind of place is it
Here where the sight
glazes over producing
a loss of observation skills
Whial loves play (sometimes) happily
My head rests
its case
Reality thumbs through it's little
black book
inducing my reocuring dreams
Ones that I can never remember
about the blotted out past
or hazy future
Passions arise in the heart
and I can almost taste
the salt on your skin